Texas Baptist Offering for World Hunger…

July 6, 2009

One of the best things about the OWH is that it is so transparent.  They always make it easy for you to see exactly where your money goes.  People see where their money is going, and the type of impact it is likely to have.  No wonder that the OWH is up %39 over last year to date!

Here is one of their promotional videos.  Please, take a look and consider giving:

To help, contactJoyce Gilbreath at the Baptist Building, 333 North Washington, Dallas, TX 75246.You can call Joyce at 214-828-5172 or by email at joyce.gilbreath@bgct.org.

Thank you,

Tim Dahl


Just Some Thoughts… Good Words by Vestal.

December 3, 2008

Even though I’m not officially part of a CBF church, my family has been financially supporting the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship for well over seven years.  One of the things I like to peruse is “CBF Fellowship!”  It isn’t exactly a magazine, and it isn’t quite a newspaper either.  Its to big to be a newsletter, in my opinion; and I enjoy reading it.

…well… Most of it.

No offense to Bro. Vestal; but I don’t usually read your intro piece very often, but I found myself doing it in the November/December 2008 issue (Vol. 18, No.7).

These first two sentences really caught my attention:

Communities of Christian discipleship are the very salt and light that can transform culture.  Churches, as communities of missional practice, are empowered by the Spirit to engage the world so as to transform the world.”

Brother, you speak my language.  Christian Discipleship and Missional Practice.  Now, if we could all just agree to what that means.

Here is another tidbit that kept me reading:

When Christ followers live in authentic community and demonstrate in their shared life a humility, passion and holiness like their Lord’s, nothing is quite so transformative.

That is the kind of Christian I desire to be.  That is the kind of church I so greatly desire for us to be.  “Christ followers that live in authentic community,” sounds almost to good to be true.  “Demonstrating in a shared life,” seems impossible in our age of isolation.  “Humility, passion and holiness;” seem to be anathema in the culture I live in.  Yes, we may banter the words around, but it isn’t anything that we are practicing.

It shows the desperate need of Discipleship that we need, that I need.  The core of Discipleship isn’t learning the Roman Road, or the Four Laws.  It is learning to be like Jesus.  It is doing the things that place us in his presence to be changed by him.

Just some thoughts.

Tim


Texas Baptist Convention? No Thank You.

November 6, 2008

I’m not endorsing the name change.

First off, I’ve gotten to know other Texas Baptists, that aren’t part of the BGCT.  There is a wide and diverse people known as Baptists that live in Texas.  For us to continue to claim that we are the “Texas Baptists” is rightly called arrogance.

Secondly, I do know history…especially the significance of the “G” in the “BGCT.”

Remember, we are the Baptist “General” Convention of Texas.

Here is a quick primer on what being a “General Baptist” means.

You see, I believe in General Atonement.  I believe that Jesus died for everyone, and that God holds out salvation to all that will receive him.  I reject the notion that Jesus only died for a few, select individuals.  I am not a proponent of Limited Atonement.

Yes, there are Baptists in Texas that agree with Limited Atonement; I just happen to believe they are wrong. Huzzah!

I equate changing our name to loosing something of great importance about our identity.  Perhaps the FFC are correct, and people don’t remember.  Well, that is our fault in not teaching them.  Perhaps if we do, we’ll have fewer problems.

Wouldn’t it be great if we remembered that is a strong line of Baptists in our history, other than the Calvinists that the Baptist Identity crowd is rewriting history about?  Wouldn’t it be great to know that there is a strong line in our history of Female Ministers (Thank you Sandy Creek!)?  Wouldn’t it be great to remember our place in getting Separation of Church and State on the books?  For as long as we forget who we are, the right wing extremist will continue to rewrite history, and form us into their image.

Now, for the record, I happen to believe that the FFC is staffed with good people.  Andy Pittman is a stand-up guy, with a real heart towards Jesus.  I happen to believe that David Lowrie is a stand-up guy, with a heart towards Jesus as well.  Pittman is a co-chair of the FFC, and I believe that Lowrie is a member of it.

Guys, please…bring something else to the convention.  Give me a reason to show up that is positive, not negative.  Give me a reason to step out of the exhibit hall; because right now I’m just not feeling it.

For me, being a part of the Baptist General Convention of Texas has special significance.  Therefor, I do not endorse the name change.

Tim Dahl


Albertine…

July 2, 2008

This is worth it.

“Albertine” by Brooke Fraser.

Once you know…

Faith without works is…

Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.” James 4:17

Tim


My Open Letter Response

June 28, 2008

As I read the letter, I had mixed emotions. Before I get into that, let me tell you enough about me so that you know to take everything with a grain of salt.

I am 34 years old. For some, that qualifies me as a young Baptist. For others, not so much. I consider myself a young Baptist, however misplaced that opinion of myself may be.

I’ve pastored a Southern Baptist church for over 5 years now (other major experience is hospital chaplaincy). We are uniquely aligned with the BGCT and SBC. However, I have been a personal financial and vocal supporter of the CBF for over 10 years. I’ve been blessed to attend CBF conferences, even to volunteer during their last General Assembly here in Texas. Even though my church does not endorse the CBF, I do. In my heart, I am solely aligned with the CBF. Perhaps I shall tell the specifics of that another day. I’ve often prayed that my church might align itself with the CBF, but that has not happened, and I don’t expect it to. God’s answer has thus been, “no.”

I apologize for the length of my response.

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To David Burroughs, Scott Ford, Nikki Hardeman, Jeremy Lewis, Brent McDougal, Christina Whitehouse-Suggs, and Mike Young,

I’m sorry that I don’t know who you are. I’ve heard that you may not be young, but ages are relative…no? I must admit that I read your “Open Letter to Dr. Cecil Sherman” with mixed reactions, feelings, and thoughts.

First, was the positive reaction. I spend time with some that others may consider “older” moderates, here in Fort Worth. I’ve been on the side you are on. Seemingly a lone voice, asking if there is anything else we can talk about other than the fall of the “seminary on the hill?” Unless you are here, you have no idea how often that is spoken about. People here are still grieving deeply over the conflict that erupted in Fort Worth.

I’ve been to Texas Baptist Committed meetings, seemingly the youngest one there. When asked for opinions on our future, I stated that I believed we should become more of an educational movement than political (This was around 3 years ago). One of those same Fort Worth Elder Moderates, stood up right after me, and in no uncertain terms told me to be quiet and be grateful for my “moderate” education (I’m a HPU and Truett graduate)…and the funds that provided it. I’m still a little sore about that one, thus I’ve never written about it. I’ll say this much though, a scholarship does not put freethinking Baptists into indentured servitude to any Baptist Institution, moderate or fundamentalist. Perhaps more on that another day.

I’m saying this to say, I’ve had similar thoughts and I’ve had the arrows of my elders pierce my chest. I sympathize with you and your desire to “embrace new opportunities for ministry and discipleship.” I agree with you that the Holocaust “analogy was misguided.” I would go a little bit farther than that if I had the proper words for it. For anyone to compare the Holocaust to any pain and hurt that doesn’t include the death of millions of people is more than wrong. Compare it to genocide, not denominational wars.

However, I find myself also reacting in a negative fashion to your letter. If you are truly young, then you’ll have little to no memories of the actual fundamentalist takeover of the SBC. Perhaps your dad, or even grandfather, was fired from a position in the late 1970-1980s. I’ve met at least one person that fits that category, and he doesn’t consider himself a young Baptist. He’s around 10 years my senior. From my experience with him, I don’t think that he would be in agreement with your letter.

If you are a young Baptist, then how can you say with any certainty that our forefathers suffered a “…relatively small amount of pain…?” Having spent many a day and night with people in pain, both physical and emotional, I find that statement arrogant, patronizing, and utterly reprehensible. One thing I’ve learned is to not degrade another’s pain, especially when you’ve little to no experience with it.

You made a remark that I believe you meant with the best intentions. The remark was, “…we recognize those wounds are real. They are also wounds that need healing, and for some the grieving process is not over yet.” I find this to be a misrepresentation of grieving. For those people that have suffered a loss, you never quit grieving. Please note my post about this years Father’s Day. Gray’s Anatomy speaks more truth than their writers probably know. We never get over loss. We should strike the words, “get over it,” from our pastoral care language. They are horribly crass, uncaring, and show a lack in the area of pastoral care. If you truly have little to no understanding of the pain suffered by those that have gone before, then I can understand why you use such inappropriate language.

I’m afraid that those of us that are young have a larger than unusual lack of sensitivity towards our elders. After all, we’ve seen our parents put our grandparents into the warehouses known nursing homes. It just makes sense that we’ve an over developed callousness of heart.

This brings me to my next negative reaction. Even though you seem to couch the letter in language of respect, and perhaps you genuinely think you are being respectful, the things of substance that you say (as per above), shows your lack of respect and honor for people like Dr. Sherman.

Hear me, I’m not saying that you shouldn’t say anything. I believe that dissent should be even more welcome in our midst. We need to be able to speak freely about our differences, especially when it is about the future of the CBF. But, perhaps there could have been a better way to go about the conversation. Here is where my inexperience truly shows itself. I’m not sure how we could have gone about it a different way. Maybe some of the forums through the CBF-wiki pages would have been appropriate? Perhaps on a smattering of blogs would have been a good start?

I digress though. I hope you know that people can’t just “lay down the pain of the past.” Paraphrasing Captain Kirk, it becomes a part of us and makes us who we are. Our past is important, and I think that is something most young people don’t get until they are much older. History helps define who we are. Regardless of what some of my peers said in college, identity really does matter. If we forget our history, we forget our identity.

Now, to you Moderate Elders that may be reading this. As much as it is the younger generations responsibility to learn from your experience, your lack of mentoring is appalling. You don’t want to listen to the younger generations, and your denigrating speech towards them will not help. It will take all of us, intergenerationally speaking, to make the kind of difference we need to make in God’s Kingdom. The old ways have failed, just look at our failing churches. It is time for something different. Help us to find out what it is. One reason the young lack respect for their elders is that it was never reciprocated.

Finally, back to the authors of the “Open Letter.” My main negative reaction was due to a sense of arrogance that came through in the letter. It is hard to pin down just where it comes from. Perhaps is that it feels like your are lashing your grandfather with a willow branch. Perhaps it is that there is a sense you are claiming to speak for all young CBF geared Baptists. But, at the end of your letter, you end with: “Respectfully submitted,” …That left an ashy taste in my mouth. In the end, I just didn’t have that feeling at all.

Sincerely,

Tim Dahl

Pastor

FBC, Lake Worth, TX


Open Letter from Young (?) CBF Leaders to Dr. Sherman

June 28, 2008

Below is a letter from some self-acclaimed “young leaders” of the CBF to Dr. Cecil Sherman.

I’m not sure how I feel about it yet.  There are some things I agree with, but I also see arrogance in these (not-so) young leaders.  I’ll give my reply later.  But for now, here is the letter.  I initially read this letter from Aaron Weaver’s blogsite: Big Daddy Weave

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Open Letter to Dr. Cecil Sherman

Tuesday, June 24, 2008

Dear Dr. Sherman,

For your work and ministry, we are sincerely grateful. You helped harness the energy of those who chose to leave the Southern Baptist Convention when certain leaders were ousted through manipulative and unethical means. You helped to create a new family of faith, a new movement now known as the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship. We are grateful for your risk-taking and your leadership.

After receiving recognition for your recently published book last Thursday at the CBF General Assembly in Memphis, Tennessee, you juxtaposed our relatively small amount of pain – where no one was injured or killed – to the six million killed in the Holocaust. In our opinion and the opinions of many others, your analogy was misguided. These words are old rhetoric that we will no longer accept in our midst. The SBC has chosen one path and the CBF another. We no longer have energy to focus on this separation, but rather turn our attention to a suffering world.

Though the wounds of the fundamentalist takeover of the SBC are nothing in comparison to the Holocaust, we recognize those wounds are real. They are also wounds that need healing, and for some the grieving process is not over yet. We respect that and want to allow a place for conversations about our past. Of course remembering what happened will help us avoid repeating mistakes. But we will no longer wish for this conversation to have center stage – nor be the focus of who we are and what we do.

Young Baptist leaders are ready to embrace new opportunities for ministry and discipleship. Remembering the past but not dwelling on it, many Baptist are excited and enthusiastic about ministering with the most neglected people around the world. Some of these most neglected include descendants of those people-groups who were targeted for extermination in the Holocaust.

So with deep respect for your work and sacrifice for the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, we invite you to lay down the pain of the past and join us as we focus on a future, bright with possibility.

Respectfully submitted,

David Burroughs, President, Passport, Inc.

Rev. R. Scott Ford, Associate Coordinator for Missions, CBF of Georgia

Rev. Nikki Hardeman, Associate Coordinator for Congregational Life, CBF of Georgia

Jeremy Lewis, Together for Hope Manager, CBF

Rev. Brent McDougal, Coordinator of Alabama CBF

Rev. Christina Whitehouse-Suggs, Associate Coordinator for Congregational Life, CBF South Carolina

Mike Young, Associate Coordinator for Missions, Tennessee CBF